AT000 - s4.y - Removal of inactive officers.

[AndrewTindall]

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s4.[new subsection] Members appointed or elected to a position shall automatically be relieved of their title and responsibilities should they be found to be effectively or actually absent for a period exceeding 28 days without them giving prior notice.

Basically it allows for removing members from positions when they bugger off, without needing a vonc which is pretty hard to start due to its high requirements.

'shall automatically be relieved of their title...' could instead be 'may be relieved by The Board of title...

As for its position under s4, it could probably fit into a different section, possibly one of the ones Azrael's proposals create. '

[azrael]

agree with the sentiment. think it is best under section 11 next to (but not part of) the VONC stuff. But agree the removal can't be automatic, needs to be removal by a majority of the Board I think. also what classifies as prior notice? email to the board, or forum post, etc?

[AndrewTindall]

Provided the board or at least someone who can then inform the board is aware of the notice, then that's good enough for me.

i would expect a forum post, or email to the board to be used normally.


Also, whilst the time frame i propose is 28 days allowing people to have most holidays without risk of removal, I would rather like if they do give notice of shorter absences too.

[scuzzmonkey]

forum post or e-mail should suffice imo, something "official" i.e. not a some twitter update.

i think it should be implied - maybe by an email to all officers, that if anyone is going to be AWOL for a period of > 1 week it is probably best to at least say something about it, just so people don't think they are being ignored.

[azrael]

the removal process should probably also involve notifying the awol person and potentially accepting good excuses after the fact. hit by a bus and in a coma for a month etc - then again, in such cases where it isn't the fault of the person, they probably still need to be replaced

[scuzzmonkey]

proposal: replace by an interim (us?) for anything up to an additional 2 months;after which point the position is re-opened for election

[glambert]

trigger a "by-election"?

[borgs8472]

I track (not very quickly mind you) all incoming and outgoing official positions via the forum positions and titles. If anyone with an official position is inactive for a bit (via last activity forum timestamp) I contact the people involved to update me or take action. I've taken charge of every area expect the press office which I will soon.

I would drop the 'automatically' and replace with 'are liable to'.

[glambert]

I track (not very quickly mind you) all incoming and outgoing official positions via the forum positions and titles. If anyone with an official position is inactive for a bit (via last activity forum timestamp) I contact the people involved to update me or take action. I've taken charge of every area expect the press office which I will soon.

I would drop the 'automatically' and replace with 'are liable to'.

why can you post in the BoG area?

I'm inclined to agree with the "are liable to" part. We need to do something about this soon so we can do something about our inactive Guv.

[AndrewTindall]

trigger a "by-election"?

one of azrael's proposals allows extra-ordinary elections to fill vacant seats.

proposal now reads

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s4.[new subsection] Members appointed or elected to a position who are found to be effectively or actually absent for a period exceeding 28 days without prior notice shall be contacted by The Board to seek explanation and inform the member of actions that may be taken; and may be liable for removal from their position subject to the decision of The Board.