Pirate Students website

[PeterBrett]

To me, it's much more important that it works and does what is required than that it achieves perfection in its engineering elegance.

And to me, both are equally as important.

Yes, but management is expected to be unsympathetic to that point of view.

[glambert]

To me, it's much more important that it works and does what is required than that it achieves perfection in its engineering elegance.

And to me, both are equally as important.

Yes, but management is expected to be unsympathetic to that point of view.

Then management needs to change it's attitude.

[PeterBrett]

Then management needs to change it's attitude.

Okay, you're having a bad day.

On a serious note, I've seen projects founder and make no progress because of too extensive bike-shedding of design and too great a desire for modularisation. The point I was trying to make was merely that the best should never be allowed to become the enemy of the good enough.

[glambert]

Then management needs to change it's attitude.

Okay, you're having a bad day.

Really?

On a serious note, I've seen projects founder and make no progress because of too extensive bike-shedding of design and too great a desire for modularisation. The point I was trying to make was merely that the best should never be allowed to become the enemy of the good enough.

I know what you're saying. However, code must be neat. It must be efficient. It must be written in a way that is understandable to any programmer in-case the project is passed onto someone else. It must be written so that the database is secure from any potential attacks for privacy reasons if nothing else. If we create a system that is vulnerable and we can't protect private data, we may as well give up now.

I hope you can see my point of view, and hopefully the point of view of all programmers.

[PeterBrett]

Speaking as a programmer, I entirely agree.

[barrucadu]

I have just set up a mailing list to discuss further development: http://lists.ppuk.org.uk

Gmail keeps putting messages from lists.ppuk.org.uk in my spam folder, so check there if messages don't seem to be showing up.

The server is pretty much set up, I just need to create a git repo and development can start.

[PeterBrett]

I suggest github, it's excellent. Alternatively, if you want a more Free-as-in-freedom solution, there's Gitorious... but since all these services use git, it doesn't really matter all that much exactly which one you use, because the basic tools will all work fine.

[Vivan]

I'm Vivan, and I support this thread.

[barrucadu]

I was just going to set up a git repo on the server because then we can do nice things like pushing also updates the website. But we could use that and another git site - I already have an account on github, so that'd be the easiest.

[PeterBrett]

I was just going to set up a git repo on the server because then we can do nice things like pushing also updates the website. But we could use that and another git site - I already have an account on github, so that'd be the easiest.

You could set up the master repository on github, and then set up a cron job on the server to pull from that repo on a daily basis, maybe?

[barrucadu]

In stark reversal to my previous opinion, I now think that github would be the best development platform. I think that it would work better if one developer was designated as being in control of the master version, who pushes changes to the server whenever things in that branch change, and who merges in contributions from other developers. Also, using github makes it possible for many people to contribute without giving many people push access to the server.

A detailed list of my ideas can be found on the mailing list.

[Finlay_A]

Any progress? I'd help but I cant work computers

[glambert]

I started some very small work on Saturday, and have been working all weekend apart from that.

I've been violently ill all day today and unable to sit down for any reasonable period of time to work on this. Hopefully I can spend my other day off tomorrow working on this.

[Finlay_A]

Sorry to hear that Graeme Don't worry about it too much, it's not amazingly urgent.

[barrucadu]

Also, when you've done a bit more and so I can see how your code all fits together, I'll make a start. When interested in a project, I can churn out hundreds, sometimes even thousands, of lines of code a day

[glambert]

I'm the same, and when I get stuck into a project, I can start coding things in my head as I'm doing every-day things; very useful at times

I'm feeling better today, been 13 hours since I've thrown up so that's good! My girlfriend isn't home until 9pm so I have plenty of time to nerd away today.

[Abedecian]

This is a very good idea, I think one key thing is to get the student politicians to set up a pirate society, they all have time to waste in-between lectures and drinking

[Gavman]

So I know this post will be ignored but here goes...

What happened with this?

I heard all this planned hype and then October came round and then zip.. nadda.. nothing...

Did the party launch adverts to target students? I happen to know the student landing page exists but we heard nothing from the Party about this, hell I even suggested that after the launch, a blog post be written about the advert so members could see what gets worked on behind the scenes, suffice to say I was not suprised to see nothing more.

Now I am human and may have missed information being posted on this in which case I genuinely apologise and request someone link me to the material?

Regards,

[barrucadu]

Well, I planned to get this finished before I went off to university but just didn't have the time. However, I've been slowly taking up my old projects over the past couple of weeks so I'll start working on this again in a week or two. There isn't much left to do.

I expect glambert has been absent for similar reasons.

[Gavman]

sorry, not moaning at the guys who were decent enough to volunteer to do work on this project, just that the Party decided to just let it fall in to the background.

I think its great that we had a project and people were volunteering to help with so if it can be kick started again then great