Internet Censorship in Germany

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Internet Censorship in Germany

Postby tonnerkiller » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:10 am

Hello,
In Germany, the government plans to block internet pages showing child pornography. The local Pirate Party and many other "net citizen" doubt the use of the blocking system to fight child pornography, as you can get around in less than a minute (there are videos on youtube showing you how to do that).
A woman from Berlin started an online petition against the law proposal, and it has been rather successful. Now, in the last days it was found out that you neither have to live in Germany nor be a German citizen to co-sign that petition.

So I am asking you to support our fight against censorship. Ah, forgot that: Once the blocking infrastructure is up, it is easy to use it for just anything, there are now plans to block filesharing sites and ego-shooter online games and what not.

So please help us and show that also people from abroad are taking a look on censorship plans in Germany.

The Bavarian section of the German Pirate Party created a how to in English language, showing how to co-sign. You find it here:

http://www.piratenpartei-bayern.de/Sign ... on-Germans

But take in mind that the last day for co-signing is the 16th June...

Thanks for your interest (Hope I click the right button to post this...)
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Re: Internet Censorship in Germany

Postby IceWind87 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:05 pm

You got mine.

The principle of blocking sites from peoples view is an infrigement on there Human rights by removing there Freedon of Speach and Freedom of Knowledge regadless of the content that is being viewd.

Ok i agree with the child porn part but there is other ways of combating against this,

Such a system is already in use in China where the Communist Government dictates what the state can and cannot view. Any material that is said to infringe on the policies of chine or their communist way is deemed to be unacceptable website and is thus blocked from the public view. Are the Democratic countries of Europe really going to start to try and imply Communist attitudes towards there public?
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Re: Internet Censorship in Germany

Postby maven » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:15 pm

IceWind87 wrote:Such a system is already in use in China where the Communist Government dictates what the state can and cannot view.


And as is usual that system is seriously broken. Blocks material that the Chinese Government does not want its people to see but then effective provides "root" access to the machines the blocker is installed on. Retro-fitting these things into badly designed operating systems is always going to result in security issues. So trying to "fix" one problem they create many more serious ones.
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Re: Internet Censorship in Germany

Postby tonnerkiller » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:19 pm

Thank you.

Actually, the internet community in Germany is also saying that there need to be other means to combat child porn. This is just the government's propaganda tool to take constitutional freedoms.

Afterwards all could land on the list, and yet nobody thought about how to get off that list, in case of a mistake...

Just imagine 20 policemen visiting you for having read that controversial blog that accidently landed on the list. And then imagine some policeman using the term "child porn" and a neighbour hearing it...

Your life will never be as it was before...
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Re: Internet Censorship in Germany

Postby SamPaul » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:27 pm

How scary... rather than devoting time time catching the paedo's, they block webpages? So in one fail swoop you take away whatever dark twisted catharsis they might have and encourage them to acquire they're own material?

Are they going to scan emails as well? Will they start opening letters? Where does it stop? and has it actually solved the the problem to any extent?

As a parent obviously I'd like to see these messed up individuals denied the ability to exercise their immoral desires. I'd like to see a volunteer scheme. If you are a paedo you should be able to aproach a doctor to be chemically castrated, and compensated monetarily. Treated as any other sick person with a disability. Of course if you're found guilty of actual acts, you should be punished, but still offered the treatment.

There is clearly another motive for this action, it does not justify itself. I guess that's just par for the course.
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Re: Internet Censorship in Germany

Postby scuzzmonkey » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:44 pm

sampaul wrote:As a parent obviously I'd like to see these messed up individuals denied the ability to exercise their immoral desires. I'd like to see a volunteer scheme. If you are a paedo you should be able to aproach a doctor to be chemically castrated, and compensated monetarily. Treated as any other sick person with a disability. Of course if you're found guilty of actual acts, you should be punished, but still offered the treatment.


it has been shown time and time again that chemical castration does absolutely nothing to change paedophiles - peadeophilla is a psychological illness, not a biological one.
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